Monday, March 16, 2009

Globe's Loyalty Program Gone Wrong

I don't understand the logic behind Globe Telecom's loyalty program.

Typically, a new mobile phone subscriber is required to maintain a postpaid line for 2 years. This is standard industry practice here in the country.  I think this is to recover the acquisition cost and other marketing costs associated with new subscriptions.  After the 2 year holding period, the subscriber is now free to move on to another service provider.   Hence, like any other business, it is very critical that Globe has a very good retention program in order to decrease customer churn rates.

For a new subscriber, Globe is willing to provide incentives like a free phone.  It is very aggressive in recruitment but it is not so with respect to retention.  I know that Globe has a loyalty program.  But sadly, I have never been entitled to one.  I have maintained a Globe line for 9 years and in all that time, I was never afforded a reward for my loyalty. Globe is very selective in choosing who they reward.  I do not know the criteria by which it decides whose subscription behavior is worth rewarding or not, and apparently mine is not.

I made a quick call today to inquire about the loyalty program, but the customer service representative explained to me that the loyalty program is offered on an on-and-off basis.   There has been no advice from the Globe head office yet as to when they will offer it again, so she just advised me to keep on calling them to inquire about the rewards.  BIG DUH!  That is not rewarding at all.  That is NOT making me feel like an important customer, that is reducing me to begging.  Is that the way Globe treats customers?  I thought customers are king.  Do we have to be paupers?  This is really beyond my comprehension.  

Here's where the customer development policy of Globe puzzles me.   If I TERMINATE my line now and apply for a new line, I CAN avail of a new phone for FREE.   Essentially, I will still use the same customer details, maintain the same service consumption pattern, except that my cellphone number will change.  So why not just give me the free phone NOW (using my same number)?  I simply do not get the business logic.  There won't be any NEW business created.   There won't be any incremental revenue generated, rather an additional expense on top of the free phone will be incurred, i.e.,  Globe will have to retire an old number, execute a new agreement, re-encode new customer details, etc.

Globe will spend precious marketing pesos to get an ARTIFICIALLY new account (me) but will not bother to spend a single centavo to prevent me from defecting.  What kind of strategy is that?  Perhaps Globe just believes that there is an exit barrier for subscribers.  After all, it sure is a hassle to change your number every 2 years and send your new number to all your contacts.   But for many customers like me, I will not mind changing my number if doing so will mean I can get a new phone for free.

Any marketing practitioner knows that it costs much, much more to get a new customer than it is to retain one.  What is worse, any deactivation of account will represent a discontinuity of data. Perhaps Globe just has a very sophisticated CRM (customer relationship management) software that allows it to read and analyze customer metrics using an account number that can be reassigned to multiple mobile numbers.   Nonetheless, it will still represent a migration of customer usage data and it would be far simpler if the data to be analyzed just covers one mobile number.

Moreover, with old customers trying to disguise themselves as new customers, the new enrollment rate tends to be artificially bloated.  Now, is this a window dressing tactic that Globe employs so that it will fare comparably well against other companies like Smart or Digitel?  

Globe is a leaky bucket.   What Globe is doing is just continuously pouring in water in efforts to maintain or increase the water level.  But what it needs now is to plug the holes to prevent water from leaking out of the bucket.   It is good in offensive marketing, but what about defensive marketing?
Smart Communications fortunately gets it.  As early as the 18th month into the subscription, Smart already starts to offer its subscribers a range of free phones to choose from.  And when customers get a new phone, they are required to stay on for another 2 years, just like any new subscriber.   As you can guess, the objective is met.   The existing subscribers have an incentive to stay.  Smart gets the benefit of loyal customers without the headache of deactivating old numbers and activating new ones.

I am so tempted to switch to Smart.   I have changed my Globe number far too many times already.  And besides, the free phone offers from Smart are much, much better.   Globe really has to get its loyalty act together.  

 



38 comments:

  1. Hi there! So any updates? Did you switch to Smart? I've been a Globe subscriber for 7 years now, and I was only approved a discount on my monthly billing (200 pesos) for a year (my third year). Since then, I haven't availed of their loyalty programs. I'm thinking if I should be Smart about this. ;)

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  2. Globe is just giving me a rebate of P458 for 2 years which can be applied to my 2 lines. I guess what they offered us are more or less the same. I thought that was a very lame offer. What I want is a new phone. So, yes, we ought to be Smart about this. Thanks!

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  3. I have a globe account that run for ages and true, they dont even bother with their customers. Makes us feel BAAAAaaaad! No text back, no return call nothing!
    Ironically I got suncell as my back up line. They give the phones and they do it on time.
    Funny I am using my sunell more and upgraded the plan. Not too bad, I can even call the other sun users for free and theres lots of them!

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  4. Whoa, thank God I found this blog. And the author is 101% true on her view regarding this "bad" marketing strategy being employed, diguising account migration from existing subscribers as new one.. Very well said.

    And to add up to thousands, if not million unsatisfied loyal Globe subscribers, I have been calling 211 since July 2009 for my retention package (plan 1200 since 2004, i got N6300 last 2007) 2 years ago, I agree to have been contented w/ their program but as of now, all I've got was purely scripts of apologies and even lies like someone from the Loyalty/rewards group will call me blah blah!!

    -Ash (colds01 at yahoo dot com)

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  5. My globe account has been with me for nine years now. But they really don't seem serious about their customer retention program.

    For years, I have been surrounded by friends and relatives that's long been enjoying great loyalty perks from smart. And smart even takes the effort to call/text them to "convince" them to avail.

    Globe on the other hand, hasn't even sent me any information about their retention program. Not even once!

    I might just follow Megastar Sharon and make that switch!

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  6. Thank you all for your comments. I can't believe that many of us are putting up with this bad customer marketing from Globe. Globe should really get its act together.

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  7. thanks for this blog! i've been a globe subscriber for 8 years now. the first 2 years, i wasn't reminded about the loyalty reward program. the next one, i got a free phone but had to call 211 several times to follow up. now i want to apply for a rebate and started calling them Sept. of this year. until now they just keep on telling me the same thing. a customer service officer will call me after 3 days. 2 mos. na wala pa din sila masabi about the reward program. im thinking of switching to smart or sun na. kainis talaga!

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  8. I have been encountering the EXACT same problem. I've been with Globe for 4 years now and they still havent given me a new phone. Three months ago I've been requesting for a handset and though they said their loyalty department will call, they still haven't. 3 weeks ago, I called again and they said that they would call within 3 days. 3 days passed and they still havent call, so i began to be persistent in calling. The customer service representative told me that it was within 3-5 working days, so fine... a week later, still no call. Another week passed, and yes. No call. :)

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  9. Like Isabel, I've been calling Globe for 3 months now and I kept getting the same "Someone from the loyalty department will call you in 3 days" spiel, with no call actually happening. It was only 3 weeks ago that someone named Maricel from the loyalty dept called, and she promised that I will be updated in 2 weeks regarding the free handset. 5 days later, I received a text from Globe saying that I will be updated in 4 days. Nothing happened after that. I called customer service 3 days ago and they don't know anything about what was promised to me, and said that someone will call me. Still no call as of today. I'm really switching to Smart as soon as I get home to Manila. Oh, and since I'm roaming, they also had the nerve to charge me with roaming fees for the incoming phone call from the loyalty department, even after Maricel assured me that it would not happen. I disputed the charges and according to the customer service rep the dispute will still be "under investigation". So no, their "loyalty program" is definitely not inspiring me to be loyal.

    Thanks for posting about this. Sorry for the long comment. :)

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  10. so is this going to be an alliance against globe? hehehe. i share the same sentiment with ewveryone. tara sa SMART naman tayo!

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  11. BULOK talaga ang GLOBE! My husband was offered by a Globe representative to get a phone through loyalty rewards. She even said that my husband is qualified to get an IPHONE 3G for FREE or IPHONE 3GS for additional P3,000. Syempre, my husband was ecstatic about it. However, the customer representative said that the IPHONE is out of stock so he has to wait and just call them up time to time to follow it up. This happened Nov 27, 2009. After 5 days, he called them to ask for the status, the customer service then said, the request is still on process since the phone is not yet available. After 2 days, the request is still in process. Then this is what their customer representative said: "Someone from the loyalty department will call you in 3 days". Well, guess what! Still no call from them! Tsk tsk!

    So what I did, I called them up questioning their process.. all they can say is that they already have a new promo and that the promo given to my husband has already expired! I flared up and told them... Our request was granted way before the promo expired so it only means that they should grant our request!

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  12. I used to be Globe subscriber, but got the same problem of not getting a freebie phone after several years of being a good and "loyal" customer. Well, I defected to the opposition, and I know I made a "Smart" move. Sending my new Smart number to my contacts is easy, I just typed my name and new number through sms and send to all, simple as that. Oh yes, I love the Nokia phone that Smart gave me for being smart. ;) Oh, before I forget, I got to choose a number of my liking and thats a bonus for me. :) Drop your globe numbers guys, make the Smart move, now!!! ;)

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  13. I agree that Globe's loyalty service sucks. I have been a globe subscriber for the past 9 years and I was also victimized by the "someone will call you within 3 days" but no one ever called for 2 years! And then finally i got a small rebate "reward." Gee, thanks, Globe!

    However, I'm one of the lazy ones who can't be bothered to make the switch to Smart. Is Smart really all that better that the hassle of canceling and applying for a new line and updating everyone with the new number worth it? I'd really like to know!!

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  14. It's simple: not enough subscribers are demanding a better loyalty program by terminating their account in the 24th month if they don't get a call from Globe offering a new phone.

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  15. I really, really hate Globe's "Loyalty" Program. They've been passing me around, a customer representative told me that someone from the Rewards Program will call me, then when the person of the Rewards Program called, she re-directed me to call 211 for any inquiries!

    They've been telling me for 2 years already that they're out of any new phones. My God, their a freakin' PHONE COMPANY for God's sake.

    I really, really hate Globe's Rewards Program. Any idea how we can let the know that? Ugh.

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  16. "they're" not "their. Sorry about that.

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  17. I share the same sentiments.. Globe sucks big time.

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  18. i have inquired to globe about my loyalty/retention rewards program since my contract ended last july 2009..i was aiming to get a phone ...all they said was they will get back to me regarding this...so someone called me back and said they were not offering any phones yet...so i said let me know when it comes....i called a month after and still the same result...it is now february 2010 and i have not received any calls...i will definitely be switching to another provider since globe customer service sucks big time

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  19. i get a free phone every 2 years. and my daughter's plan i chose instead of getting a free phone every 2 years, there will be a discount on her bill. those who have discounts you might as well tell globe that you dont want a discount and you want a free phone.

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  20. I share everyone's complaints and sentiments here. I have been a Globe subscriber for 14+ years now, the latest billing is already my 178th.

    I just got back from the Globe office in SM Marikina. I was so frustrated that I had to search for similar experiences and found this blog.

    I went to the Globe office to ask for a free phone and I got the same "Sorry, no available phones for loyalty program yet" response. I offered to switch my plan to one of the new "My Fully Loaded Plan" just to get a free phone and the CSR replied, "Free phones are just for new subscribers. You can switch plans but you cannot get the free phone." Well, I guess that is the "loyalty program" of Globe.

    My family members have been loyal subscribers of Globe. I have actually 2 Globe post-paid lines under my name, my wife has 1, my brother has 2, and my sister-in-law as 1. We have consecutive numbers. Aside from one P1200 consumable, the rest of our plans are all P800 consumable. Among the 6 lines, only 1 (my brother's) was able to avail of 2 free phones and that was several years ago.

    We are now all planning to switch to Smart postpaid. I am excited to see the reaction of the Globe CSR when all of us will ask her to terminate our 6 post-paid lines all at the same time.

    I just hope Smart can offer better service. But we are just too fed up with Globe's weak loyalty program.

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  21. globe's loyalty program is a joke.
    my husband & i (globe users for 10 years) want to get the iphone.
    unbelievably, they are charging us a higher "cash out" charge for the phone than if we were new subscribers. isn't that crazy??
    it's a dis-incentive to be loyal.
    does anyone know if smart is better?

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  22. I still have 13 months to go and I'm also looking forward to the loyalty program, I read on a certain forum that globe
    gives free phones and macbooks so I decided to get a globe postpaid...upon reading your posts I'm starting to wonder if I made a wise decision going for a globe line

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  23. I agree with all of you, Globe's loyalty program sucks. I've been with Globe for almost 8 years now and the other week I called them to ask about loyalty rewards. Was redirected to the business plan hotline coz my plan is business/corporate daw. Syempre happy ako coz I thought I'd be getting a very good offer. But I was very very disappointed coz instead of offering either a new handset or a bill rebate, I was told that my plan would be upgraded to plan 999 plus a handset but I would have to shell out some cash for the handset. WTH! Hindi lang yun, ung plan 999 ay unli-text and unli-call lang sa globe! My current plan is plan 800 consumable tapos tataasan nila plan ko to 999 pero restricted lang sa call and text sa Globe. Sabi ko nga dun sa CSR parang hindi ata maganda ang offer ng Globe and told her I might have it terminated na lang. Sabi nya, sige po. lol! Pero syempre hindi ko ginawa..not yet anyway.

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  24. GLOBE "LOYALTY" Strategy SUCKS! Why are they even offering rebates when they can earn more with Plan Upgrades!!!! STUPID STUPID STUPID BUSINESS MODEL!

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  25. FUCK YOU GLOBE!!!! SAME SENTIMENTS TO ALL OF YOU...

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  26. Globe sucks! They don't value their existing customers and they just concentrate on new subscribers.

    No wonder they've been lagging behind Smart in terms of earnings. They have all these cheap promos just to entice new customers but once you're with them they'll no longer you.

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  27. We have a choice indeed! If Globe continues to neglect us LOYAL customers, Then we can transfer to SMART & other providers. We have the right to demand the best service out there for our hard-earned money. Our LOYALTY ends when the reasons why we became as such were no longer offered by Globe anymore. Any feedbacks from guys who switched to Smart yet?

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  28. I think it's just Globe's tactic to bloat their new subscriber base that's why they're not prioritizing their loyal subscribers. I'm a long time smart subscriber and also a globe subscriber. I'm always looking forward to my end of contract with smart as I always get a new phone at lower rates than their new subscription rate. On the other hand, my globe postpaid line is set to expire next month and I'm worried that I'll get the same treatment, I don't want to lose my globe number though I rarely use it but I also need an incentive to stay with them, and a new phone is enticing but if they don't offer anything, I might just as well terminate my globe postpaid line.

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  29. Same situation as i'm about to renew for the fourth time and I was hoping to get a nice phone (and give it to my wife). Not happy since i'm getting crappy offers from the loyalty dept. Currently on a Gflex 800 plan but i'm paying P1200+ every month.

    Here's what I offered when I called 'em earlier this week..

    a. P200 bill rebated for 24 months
    b. Pioneer DVD player
    c. Nokia C5

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  30. Wow, it's been years since this was posted but Globe is still the same!

    I have started using Globe last 2008 and my contract ended 2010 using SMCPlan 500 (a corporate plan), upon resigning in the company, I switched to Plan 299 but was later informed that since I decided TO STAY CONNECTED I have to wait 6 months to get a phone, for no valid reason at all! I didn't get why I have to wait that long. I didnt get to see the 6th month because of my financial issues (my bad) and got the line disconnected.

    Recently, I decided to reactivate the number WITH the assurance of the Globe rep that I will receive a new phone upon activation (after 2 days) and will not wait for 6 months. I paid the current balance,P550 for reactivation, and P299 for advance. After 2 days, the line got activated - NO PHONE! I have to wait for 6 MONTHS!

    If the Globe rep didn't assured us, I would just have paid the balance and got myself a new number and phone :( or better yet, transfer to Smart.

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  31. So that means that what I had been promised simply isn't true? I have three accounts with Globe: 2 postpaid mobiles and 1 internet+landline bundle. The 2 postpaid mobiles are to expire a few months from now and I was looking forward to free phones... so that means I shouldn't get my hopes up, eh?

    Hope not. That would really suck. I might just terminate all the accounts. THEIR loss - or do they even know that they are losing anything?

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  32. now i know why some of my friends kept on changing their numbers to avail of the new phone. i'm a constant victim of globe's loyalty program. i was fooled several times. april 2009 i was forced to opt for the rebates since they're insisting the iphone 3gs that time with a 21,300 cash-out, told them that my other phone is already an iphone, when I requested for other phone models they told me all-phone were out-of-stock and only the Iphone 3gs is available. Got irritated and downgraded my plan from Business Plan 1,200 to 800, and was surprised when they asked me to pay a 1-month advance subscription fee. And aside from that my contract's expiration was extended from April 2011 to October 2011 and another surprise when it expired my plan rolled-back to Plan 1,200!!!

    Now I'm availing the Iphone 4s, they won't allow the availment since I'm subscribed with their old Business Plan and I need to upgrade my plan. When I applied for the SME Business plan I was told that phones with higher value will be given since its under their SME Business Plan, maybe Globe forgot all about their commitment to their suscribers. I emailed, called and even tweetted several times regarding my Iphone 4s loyalty program availment but no call has been made by Globe's Loyalty Specialists. Visited their business center but the CSR insisted that I call 211 first because they cannot reserve the phone "daw" when new applicants can readily avail of iphone.

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  33. My plan is about to expire next month, i just hope they retain my old number as a loyal customer. I was tricked at least 3 times before, but this time, i will switch to Smart if they offer me another crap.

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  34. its now already year 2012 and still GLOBE loyalty rewards for existing postpaid subscriber is a crap! im thinking if I will disguise as a new subcriber to apply for a new line and to terminate my existing account or just make the "SMART" move. if only most of my contacts are not on GLOBE matagal na ko ng SMART!

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  35. I just finished my 2 year plan with Globe. I wanted to get a new phone so as to renew my contract with them. I was advised by the one of the service center rep that I can get a free phone but would have to check availability by calling their hotline. I just called today and was advised if I wanted to get a new phone, I would have to pay additional 99 PHP per month as an add on. It was not mentioned when I was inquiring with one of their service center rep and upon checking their website, the same plan do not require add ons if I'm a new subscriber. It really doesn't make sense. I'm really frustrated. :S

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  36. I am trying to recontact to globe by this time they are saying that they are calling me. Sa mga nbsa ko dito mukhang nararanasan ko ang nkapagandang LOYALTY REWARDS program ni Globe
    wag naman sna

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  37. We're in a globe broadband dsl plan and my mom told me that someone from globe called her days ago, that we could avail a free Samsung galaxy s3 but with line for 2 years (we would have to pay for the line, of course) because of that loyalty reward thing. They promised us that they will deliver the unit after 7 working days and will call us for updates, today is the 5th day (I think?) and we still haven't receive any call or updates from them. and as I read comments from here, I think that I shouldn't believe on what globe promised us or Should I?

    Is someone here that have been to this kind of experience? What happened guys? I need feedback. Thanks :) Godbless!

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  38. same here, Globe called, said I have availed of their rewards (blah, blah, blah), til now they haven't called back. checked with the nearest Globelines center, the personnel there just instructs me not to believe in it, funny, since then I don't believe in them, I will only believe if they will deliver it to me personally.

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